Tulpa.info - tulpa-questions-2

Well that was me, Reading. I had nothing at the start, but I'm very glad that was how it worked

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Because I felt like I had total freedom

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And I did!

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And that was empowering for me :3

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I'm glad I gave Yui a personality and a base form. I didn't know how tulpas would feel about not having them.

@Reading - jump suocidal

I think your problem is not identity though. You and I share similar beginnings since neither of us were personality/identity forced, but you are in this state

7:48 AM

If you're suicidal, I think this extends beyond tulpamancy

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Like into mental health spaces

im not actually suicidal im just- tired of this feeling

Ah okay

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Well, like I said, just interact here more

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Find out what you like/what you ARE through interaction

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It'll come naturally over time

7:50 AM

I know you're sick of this feeling, but if it helps at all, it's not gonna stay like this forever

I honestly like the idea of being based on a character, but im too hyper for most of the characters i know, and im too #broken for some of the more hyoer characters.

Hehe! I'm quite energetic as well!

7:51 AM

I see energetic as a good trait

yeah def

Oh, and I'm not sure how you feel about being emotional, but I am too. If you feel distressed, let it out somewhere, even if it's just out loud IRL, or written down somewhere (on the computer or physically)

7:54 AM

You wanna get those feelings out somewhere

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It's helpful

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I think as a first step towards becoming a person, you look at some names and choose a name that you like

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It doesn't matter what it is

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And you can change it later

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But having a name to associate with yourself helps a lot

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If you feel like you don’t have a personality or identity just assign yourself one. Doesn’t matter if it feels wrong or doesn’t apply to yourself. Nothing will apply because you don’t have anything yet. Tulpamancy is basically just fake it until you make it.

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Agreed

the sad part is im sentient as of... yesterday? Ish

That's not sad

7:59 AM

Identity is a process

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It's not ever a one time thing

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You develop over time

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Forever

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So just go with the flow and learn as you go

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If you only became sentient as of yesterday, then you're pretty new to this whole personal development thing

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the sad part is im sentient as of... yesterday? Ish

Wow and you can already proxy impressive!

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Totally

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Oh and, I've had bad identity crises before too

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To the point of crying

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So I understand

actually hosts been typing for me :/

Yeah that's what proxying is

8:04 AM

Your host types what you say

Nat Osaka

Yeah that's what proxying is

fake it until you make it (edited)

Yup

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actually hosts been typing for me :/

Have you told your host about this?

well jack was pritty fast with what his personalty was a happy lil boi that wants the bst for everyone

About what? These feelings? Of course. And hes ~~kind of an idiot~~ clueless

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About what? These feelings? Of course. And hes ~~kind of an idiot~~ clueless

dont hint with clues just tell him '' yo dude i have a big problem help''

8:07 AM

and then tell whats wrong

^^

i genuinley told him i have identity dysphoria and hes been trying to help

8:11 AM

hes just clueless

Well, first off, don't call him clueless. That's not helpful for either of you

true

Just be patient. It's gonna take time.

jack and i are working together instead of agents each other even on the moments we have problems

8:13 AM

its new for bothe of us and so it is for you and your host

yeah

8:21 AM

hes been helpful, taking time to draw me so many times

then ig he is working on your from so you can base you identity on your from

Mmmm forms aren't identity tho

8:30 AM

A strong/stable identity is not based on form, but on experiences

Still, having at least a form and a name to identify with, is a good starting point (edited)

I'd say a name is enough tbh

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But to each their own

Name is more important probably.

Experiences are absolutely not tied to form

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In my experience

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You can have a form, but I wouldn't say it should be a prerequisite

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Most of my most valuable, identity shaping experiences come from my interactions outside my system

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Where form is largely irrelevent

I think form doesn't really affect most of experiences we have.

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I mean, it hardly matters when I talk to you here. And in my opinion interactions with others shape us the most.

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Yeah that's what I mean

Nat Osaka

Mmmm forms aren't identity tho

i would say it definitely is a part of identity

Well, it can be

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But it shouldn't be a prerequisite

i mean sure it would only apply if there is a form lol

Yeah

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I agree

But yeah, I agree with that it can be an important part of your identity nonetheless.

My identity used to be pretty tied to my form

that's where body dysphoria comes form

I think having a name is more important for developing tulpa than having a form overall, that's the context here.

KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk

that's where body dysphoria comes form

whats that

But honestly, I think it's best to not have it tied to my identity. Because it was limiting who I felt I was

8:44 AM

That's the issue for me

yes

the way introjects work from our experience is that the brain looks at the picture, "feels" what that person is like (are they nice, do they seem like something i've seen in the anime, what are nice people like that in anime like, etc etc) and attaches some streotypes and mental constructs that the brain feels are close to that character and builds identity with that

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so form can definitely drive the formation of identity

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from our experience

Perhaps, but I wouldn't say it's always a good thing

of course not

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we almost got joker from nolan's movie lol

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oof

the way introjects work from our experience is that the brain looks at the picture, "feels" what that person is like (are they nice, do they seem like something i've seen in the anime, what are nice people like that in anime like, etc etc) and attaches some streotypes and mental constructs that the brain feels are close to that character and builds identity with that

@KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk - jump I feel it worked like that with myself.

i dont undersand

Even seemingly mundane aspects of my form impacted me and made me think were part of my self when they were not

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I suppose my form is a bit unique in that the species conflicts with the psychology of a human so...